sometimes microsoft hires really good people like jimmy kuo and sometimes they really screw up and hire folks you maybe wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley... that seems to have happened with their acquisition of ep_xoff et all behind rootkit unhooker... you may recall i posted about this individual once before in relation to an apparent ethical conflict (ep_xoff wrote and released a stealthkit, or 'rootkit' for those drinking the rootkitDOTcom koolaid, capable of bypassing all stealthkit detectors save possibly microsoft's own strider winpe ghostbuster technology)...
what i didn't post about before were his reactions to the concerns expressed by myself and cd-man (here)... while his criticisms of me were little more than childish, according to dmitry sokolov, ep_xoff veered more into the realm of criminal behaviour by attempting to incite a DDoS against or defacement of cd-man's blog...
normally i would say that hiring such a goon would reflect poorly on a company, but since microsoft's moral compass isn't really known for pointing to true north, i suppose i shouldn't have expected better from them...
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Friday, December 28, 2007
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
ethical conflict in the anti-'rootkit' domain - part 2
while jamie butler, the creator/distributor of one of the most widely deployed stealthkits in the world (as i pointed out previously), is no longer the CTO of the government/military funded anti-stealthkit startup komoku (oh, to have been a fly on that wall), there's a new conflict to grab the spotlight...
found on the anti-rootkit blog a couple days ago, apparently the creator of a program called rootkit unhooker have created a stealthkit called unreal that no one (not even his own product) can detect and he's planning to release it...
tell me something - what kind of a world do we live in where people who are supposed to be anti-X go around making X's? if anti-virus vendors created and released viruses all hell would break loose... could you imagine buying anti-spam technology that you read about in a spam email? would you use an anti-spyware app created by people who make spyware?
so this person, known as EP_XOFF (wow, that instills confidence), expects people to trust his stealthkit detector after he's built and released a stealthkit that not even his own product detects? aside from the fact that he's just demonstrated that neither his nor any other detector is able to protect you (so far only outside-the-box cross-view analysis is going to pick it up and none of the mainstream stealthkit detectors use that technique), you now have to wonder if his detector actually comes with a similarly undetectable stealthkit that you don't know about... how could you know one way or another? and why would you trust someone whose making the technology to bypass all stealthkit detectors available for people to download and modify for their own ends?
i mean, i understand trying to find ways to break the security of something, but when it's the security in applications like the one you yourself make shouldn't you first come up with ways to prevent that break before giving the attack information to the public? who is he serving by releasing the info before even his own product is able to deal with it because it sure doesn't seem like he's serving the end user? though he may not be earning money off of making the problem worse as others have, there are still plenty of personal rewards he will almost certainly reap such as notoriety, influence, and social standing in the stealthkit research community...
what this all boils down to is this: EP_XOFF is gaining rewards at everyone else's expense... this is not the way you want your security software provider to behave...
found on the anti-rootkit blog a couple days ago, apparently the creator of a program called rootkit unhooker have created a stealthkit called unreal that no one (not even his own product) can detect and he's planning to release it...
tell me something - what kind of a world do we live in where people who are supposed to be anti-X go around making X's? if anti-virus vendors created and released viruses all hell would break loose... could you imagine buying anti-spam technology that you read about in a spam email? would you use an anti-spyware app created by people who make spyware?
so this person, known as EP_XOFF (wow, that instills confidence), expects people to trust his stealthkit detector after he's built and released a stealthkit that not even his own product detects? aside from the fact that he's just demonstrated that neither his nor any other detector is able to protect you (so far only outside-the-box cross-view analysis is going to pick it up and none of the mainstream stealthkit detectors use that technique), you now have to wonder if his detector actually comes with a similarly undetectable stealthkit that you don't know about... how could you know one way or another? and why would you trust someone whose making the technology to bypass all stealthkit detectors available for people to download and modify for their own ends?
i mean, i understand trying to find ways to break the security of something, but when it's the security in applications like the one you yourself make shouldn't you first come up with ways to prevent that break before giving the attack information to the public? who is he serving by releasing the info before even his own product is able to deal with it because it sure doesn't seem like he's serving the end user? though he may not be earning money off of making the problem worse as others have, there are still plenty of personal rewards he will almost certainly reap such as notoriety, influence, and social standing in the stealthkit research community...
what this all boils down to is this: EP_XOFF is gaining rewards at everyone else's expense... this is not the way you want your security software provider to behave...
Tags:
EP_XOFF,
ethics,
rootkit,
rootkit unhooker,
stealthkit,
unreal
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